Все о породе миниатюрный бультерьер!

Вот тоже аналогичный случай. Мне задали вопрос ,написав в личку ,почему я повязала свою суку данным кобелём ,а не другим(вопорос был задан конкректно)Я ответила, почему я сделела выбор в пользу первого.Через некоторое время мне передают через третьих лиц, что бы я прекратила "обсирать" ( не люблю это слово и никогда не употребляю)данного кобеля , причем это делают люди с которыми я никогда в жизни не общалась! Высказанное мнение обросло сплетнями незнакомых мне лиц и превратилось в "обсирание".Было очень не приятно.

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Dobryi vecher,
Tolkoshto vernula s dachi. Vystavlju perepisku s chvedomi, s ihnym rashresheniem.

----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: Puppie


Ok.
We thank you that you have been so profesional in questions and wish you best of luck.

Best regards Petra & Magnus




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From: info@mooncraft.ee
To: petraomagnuslundberg@msn.com
Subject: Re: Puppie
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:57:49 +0300


I'm always very open and honest in those matters. And very critical toward dogs, specially my own, never have a enough good dog ...
We will see how may pups will Lulu get and there is always priority for those who have a pup from us already.
Also, as I see I would need to keep a pup until 7-8 month ? I afraid its to long time.

----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: Puppie


Hello!
I thank you for your hounest oppinion. We bought him as companion and for show so we will see how he will do.
But our question is still that we really want to bye a puppie from you is this a possibility?

Best regards Petra




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From: info@mooncraft.ee
To: petraomagnuslundberg@msn.com
Subject: Re: Puppie
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:31:16 +0300


Hello,
I'm just surprised as I heard about it from my friend who read about it in Russian forum, not from you.
I'm not think that this puppy is so much of show potential. But its my opinion. We will see how he will do in Sweden in the competition. As far we don't have any competition around here, specially in puppy class ...
Best wishes
Helen
----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: Puppie


Hello.
I wounder, is it a problem that we bougt a puppie from Parabellum? You did not answer my outher mail. We could not refuse this puppie, he has done nice shows and we did not think you didnt approve to a friend to the outher mini, even though he is from an outher kennel. I would really like you to be hounest whith me because our biggest wish is to by a female puppie from you.

Best regards Petra




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From: info@mooncraft.ee
To: petraomagnuslundberg@msn.com
Subject: Re: Puppie
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:14:27 +0300


Petra,
I have a guestion. Did you buy a male puppy from Parabellum kennel ?
Best wishes
Helen




----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Congratulations to big succeses!


ok, we will find you at the show. Are you showing att the special show aswell?



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From: info@mooncraft.ee
To: petraomagnuslundberg@msn.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to big succeses!
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:32:30 +0300


Hi Petra,

We have entered Boyd and my Staffie girl Sally. I think some our bred dogs might be there as well.

Helen
----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: Congratulations to big succeses!


Hello!
Yes, that will be really nice!! It maybe will be easyer to sell a puppie to someone you have met in person. Wich dogs will you enter?

Petra




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From: info@mooncraft.ee
To: petraomagnuslundberg@msn.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to big succeses!
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:24:46 +0300


Hello Petra and Magnus,
Thank you so much for congrazz.
Oh, you will be in WW show, that's great, we will be there too.
So maybe we could meet ?
Greetings
Helen

----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:43 PM
Subject: Congratulations to big succeses!


Hello!

Big congratulations to your fantastic results! We are following your kennels result on your hompage.
We are hoping you remember us when you have your next litter. We really want to bye a puppie from you!
We are staying to se the World show for miniature bulls, there where about 50 in the show i read on the internet. It will be very exhiting!

Have a nice and succesful summer!!

Best regards Petra & Magnus



----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:50 PM
Subject: Questions


Hello.

I am so sorry that i whrite to you almoust every day whith diferent questions....
i dont mean to cause you any inconvinience.
Its just that the more i read about your kennel and dogs the more i am sure that i want a puppie from your kennel.
Today a breeder said that i should be hounerd to by a puppie from you, they think very highly about your kennel in Sweden, so its very extra to have a dog from Mooncraft´s....
I read on your website about next litter and that one can make an enquaiery of a puppie now is this possible?
We can pay a downpayment also.
Again i sorry for all the emails .

Best regards Petra Lundberg



----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: Puppie


Hello!
We are looking for a female in first place, and if its possible show quality for big championchips and maybe breeding.
It was so i bought my female dobermann, she has been in the final BIS ring several times but i dont make any diferens when she is not healty all the time, now she is on shows for fun.
But if its possible a dog whith possibility for big shows. :)

Thank you very much for your answer.

Best regards Petra Lundberg





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From: info@mooncraft.ee
To: petraomagnuslundberg@msn.com
Subject: Re: Puppie
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:06:09 +0300


Hello Petra,
Thank you for letter.
Yes, you fit as a puppy owner
Please tell me what kind of pup you looking for - male/female, color preferred, show quality as I understand ?
Thank you
Best wishes
Helen
----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: info@mooncraft.ee
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:43 PM
Subject: Puppie


Hello!

My name is Petra Lundberg and whriting to you from Sweden. I am inetrested in a miniature bullterrier puppie.
I will tell you a little about our family. Its me and my husband Magnus and our 2 children who lives in a big house whith a big yard. We are bouth been growing upp whith compeeting parents ( german shepard) I have competed in obedience and some working classes but now we only have our dogs for show.
We have a male canecorso from Poland who is my husbands and my female dobermann from Russia. My female is tested HD C and we got the strong advice to not over train her, so now I dont have a dog to show or train whith. We where offerd to get an outher dog instedd and they wanted her back, but we refused to return her she can lay on our sofa as long as she wants. We will show her a little bit but I want to have something where i can place my energi for shows on.
We have been in contact whith several breeders from all over the world and whith our swedish terrier club for information about the breed.
We can offer a great home whit big knowledge and friends in our cats and dogs, whith much training and especially shows because that is our biggest intress.

Can we fit as a puppie byer?

Please whrite me in that case.

Best ragards from Petra & Magnus Lundberg in Sweden

Ochen horosho, chto postavlena na forum eta perepiska! Ja, k sozaleniju, echo ne doma, poetomy mne eto v kakoi-to stepeni oblegchenie( ne nado skanirovat pis'ma).Tak, vot, pis'mo, v kotorom Helen vyrazaet ydivlenie po povody togo, chto ona yslyshala o pokupke schenka ot svoei podrygi, kotoraja hodit na rossiiskii forum... A dalee, idet rech o tom, chto " ona dymaet, chto schenok ne imeet vystavochnogo potensiala!!!! Pomiluite! Ona ego videla? Ona expert, sudila ego v ringe?
Kak eto ponimat ? Menja NE INTERESYET, kakaja perepiska velas s etimi ljud'mi do priobretenija moego schenka!!! Menja interesyet, na kakom osnovanii, vot tak, pohodja, byl vynesen verdikt sobake ? Pisat tak o moei sobake, ne vidja ee, ja schitaju nizko i nedostoino zavodchika, kotoryi pozisioniryet sebja professionalom !!! Po kakomy pravy bylo sdelano eto zakluchenie? Ja schitaju eto NANESENIEM MORAL*NOGO YSCHERBA PITOMNIKU ! I imeju polnoe osnovanie obnarodovat imja cheloveka, kotoryi tak postypaet so mnoi!!!

Byla sprosena mojo LICHNOE mnenie i ja etovo vyskasala. Ne skasala shto eto skashet FAKT a eto LICHNOE mnenie i togda ne nado ee sprosit. Dlja menja eto tema sakryto.


From: info@mooncraft.ee
To: petraomagnuslundberg@msn.com
Subject: Re: Puppie
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:46:47 +0300


Don't worried Petra, all is okay. I got your point and how some one is over reacting.
Thanks and we will see in Stockholm (?)

----- Original Message -----
From: petra lundberg
To: Helen Tonkson-Koit (Mooncraft`s kennel)
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: Puppie


Yes we now that it was your oppinion, that was why we asked about it! I dont think this is strange at all, as i said we trusted your oppinion. And it sayes that clearly in the mail... we havent edited anything, so what says in the forum i dont know. We only asked a simpel question!
We said nothing more then what was said in the mail, and i dont think we did wrong in asking. DO you?

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I´ve got a dream to have a dream

mooncraft
Для ,вас.может ЭТА тема закрыта,но я уверена,что скоро появятся и другие темы,касающиеся честности и порядочности заводчика и профигурирует ваше имя.

Такие же бездоказательные?

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Если вы все еще не забанены - это не ваша заслуга, а моя недоработка.

Нелли, история, действительно не приятная! Высказываться столь категорично Хелен стоило бы в кругу друзей или исключительно о своих собаках, судила она безусловно, не зная и не видя щенка, просто со злобы,но эта переписка уже состоялась. И что сейчас можно исправить? Я думаю, что у хозяев щенка есть средства оплатить его выставочную карьеру, а его достижения на ринге будут лучшим доказательством вашей правоты!
Да, хочу попросить не обсирать мою собаку, коммерческого смысла не имеет!

Ндаааа....
Тяжело быть адвокатом...
Тему закрываю.
Можете открывать новую,и обсуждать это там.

Только вчера об этом говорили-ОПАСНО высказывать личное мнение...Все это могут перевернуть,как захотят...

Только кто переворачивал?
Шведы,недовольные тем,что им намекнули в отказе щенка из-за длинного карантина в Швеции?
Или Нелли,недовольная тем,что щенки Хелен успешно продаются в России,а ее нет....

Боюсь,это останется загадкой....

Теперь я вызову ГНЕВ форумчан на себя.
Начну раздавать БАНы.

1-й получает Jelena-за публичное,совершенно не обоснованное в данном контексте, оскорбление.
2-й (увы) Turok-за некорректную подачу информации,оскорбляющую другого форумчанина.

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Если вы все еще не забанены - это не ваша заслуга, а моя недоработка.

Самой-то не смешно? Взрослые девочки вроде...

Lora
Когда ты меня поливала помоями и обвиняла во всех смертных грехах-я молчала.

Надоело. Должен быть порядок.

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Если вы все еще не забанены - это не ваша заслуга, а моя недоработка.